Has Faith: John 3:16 in the NEB/REB--Good Translation or Not?

Most of the time translation committees are reluctant to alter the wording of the KJV's rendering of John 3:16. This is, after all, a near-univerally memorized verse in the Bible. Even many non-believers know John 3:16 and they usually know it in the King's English:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16 KJV)


Yet the NEB (1961/70) translators were bold enough to make a few minor changes and one significant change in John 3:16, only to have all but one of them removed in the more conservative REB of 1989.

"God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, that everyone who has faith in him may not die but have eternal life." (John 3:16 NEB)

“God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that everyone who has faith in him may not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:16 REB)


Neither "God loved the world so much" (NEB) or "God so loved the world" (REB, also KJV) reflects the meaning of John's Greek here. A much better, but certainly less traditional reading is found in the HCSB: "For God loved the world in this way" or in the NET Bible: "For this is the way God loved the world:" (for a discussion of why these renderings are more accurate, see my review of the HCSB).

But that's not the focus of this post. Rather, I want to call attention to the NEB/REB's use of "has faith" instead of the traditional "believe."

When I first got a copy of the REB, hot off the presses in 1989, the peculiar rendering of has faith got my attention in my initial examination of this version of the Bible. I did not yet have a copy of the NEB, so I did not know that this particular phrase was handed down from its predecessor. I was in college at the time, and I had a couple of significant influences in my life--mentors, if you will. In discussing the REB with one of these individuals, I pointed out the interesting phrasing of John 3:16 to him. He told me he wasn't quite sure how accurate "has faith" was in John's gospel. He had just finished a seminar at Golden Gate Seminary on John, and one of the things pointed out in the class is that the specific word faith (πίστις/pistis) never occurs in the fourth gospel.

And that's technically true. The noun form of of the word never appears in John. But, of course, as referenced in John 3:16, the verb form (πιστεύω/pisteuo) does. In fact, πιστεύω/pisteuo occurs 98 times in John!

From the UBS Greek Dictionary, here are the two words, the noun first and then the verb (which appears in John 3:16):

πίστις, εως f faith, trust, belief; the Christian faith; conviction, good conscience (Ro 14:22,23); perhaps body of faith, doctrine (Jude 1:3,20); assurance, proof (Ac 17:31); promise (1Tm 5:12)

πιστεύω believe (in), have faith (in) (with God or Christ as object); believe, believe in; have confidence (in someone or something), entrust (something to another); ὅς μὲν π. φαγεῖν πάντα one man’s faith allows him to eat anything (Ro 14:2)


I understand why the NEB/REB translators rendered πιστεύω "has faith" instead of believe. In the Greek the relationship between the noun and verb are evident; they have the same root. But in English, there isn't a direct verb form of faith. We don't say, "I faithed in Jesus." So why not just use the traditional believe?

Well, the problem is with our English word. It has two different meanings. Believe can mean to accept something as true. But believe can also mean to hold an opinion. When John speaks of those who believe in Jesus in John 3:16, is he speaking of the same kind of belief when we say, "I believe it will rain tomorrow"? Of course not. Such belief has to be more than opinion. It also has to be more than mental assent. James foresees this as a problem when he writes,

“You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.” (James 2:19 TNIV)


Believe may simply not be an adequate word for πιστεύω in English. It's awkward, but the Amplified Bible gets the meaning across fairly well with "..so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish..." The parenthetical definition for believes in--"trusts in, clings to, relies on"--gets it right. But the Amplified Bible is not really suitable for any kind of use in a group setting (I don't really even recommend the Amplified Bible in general), so how can πιστεύω in John 3:16 best be rendered?

The NEB/REB may indeed have the best solution with has faith. What do you think? Is this good translation or do you think it's not allowed to use faith as a direct object in this verse since technically πίστις never occurs in John? Feel free to offer your opinion in the comments.

As an aside... Last Christmas, I went back to my home church for a worship service. I came across the same individual mentioned above who had been one of my mentors in college. He had just come from teaching a Bible study and was carrying two Bibles. He told me that he likes them both and gave up trying to choose one over the other. He carries them both to any study he leads or participates in. What were they? He was holding a TNIV Study Bible and a Cambridge text edition of the REB.

They say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

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Worthy of Note 3/19/2007

Those of you who are interested in issues related to Bible translations, be sure that you don't miss the following:

1. The new TNIV Truth blog. Ben Irwin, former employee of Zondervan, has a must-read post: "TNIV: Basic Idea or Details of Meaning?"
2. Kevin Sam's thoughts on the New Living Translation.
3. Gary at "A Friend of Christ" blog has begun to rethink his position on the TNIV.
4. ElShaddai Edwards examines Genesis 1:28 in the NLTse, HCSB, TNIV, and REB.

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More on Mark 1:41 in the TNIV (and NEB/REB)

As I've already created a link in the previous post, Jeremy Pierce has a terrific blog entry from two years ago on this very subject about whether Jesus was compassionate [σπλαγχνισθείς] or angry [ὀργισθείς] in Mark 1:41. I was looking at this issue strictly as a text critical issue and had ignored the commentaries on the subject.

In his original post, Jeremy deftly notes

The scholarly consensus is that the original text reads that Jesus was angry here. Out of the six commentaries I read (and three more whose conclusions I know), only one takes the view that Mark here says Jesus was compassionate rather than angry, and he simply ignores the issue and assumes the translations to be right. All the others discuss the issue, give the arguments, and conclude that Jesus was angry. Scholarly consensus doesn't mean the view is correct. I don't subscribe to the head-counting method of biblical scholarship. Still, differing from the majority consensus requires a strong argument that they're wrong or some good reason to presume another view.


After reading this, I looked at my own commentaries on Mark. Now, I'll make a confession here that of the four gospels, commentaries on Mark are the most lacking in my collection with only about a half dozen representatives. But I had two serious contributions in which I looked up Mark 1:41 Both Robert Guelich (Word Biblical Commentary) and David Garland (NIV Application Commentary--I know the NIVAC is not an overly critical commentary, but Garland is a top-notch scholar and the Mark volume is perhaps the best in the series) consider that the better (original) reading should be angry/ὀργισθείς.

'Nuff said. I'm convinced.

Bible translations tend to be keepers of tradition and very slow to change even if a different rendering would reflect a more accurate representation of an original reading supported by current scholarship. This is further reason why I am using translations in the Tyndale tradition less. So having said that, cheers to the NEB/REB! In my previous post, I mentioned the REB as the only other major translation to go with the ὀργισθείς reading, but I should have known that I spoke too soon. See, this goes back to that habit of relying on electronic texts. There just is no NEB module in Accordance! So I got out my copy of the NEB and I was delighted (but not surprised) to read this rendering of Mark 1:41...

In warm indignation Jesus stretched out his hand, touch him, and said, 'Indeed I will: be clean again.'

A textual note in the NEB reads "Some witnesses read Jesus was sorry for him and stretched out his hand" obviously referring to the σπλαγχνισθείς variant. The REB follows in the same tradition with its less dynamic "moved to anger." This is further evidence to my claim of the significance of the NEB in the history of English translations. The NEB consistently nails correct renderings decades before other translations follow suit. And in this case, the TNIV is the only contemporary translation to deny the accepted Greek eclectic text with its use of "indignant" (although the NET, NRSV and NLT refer to the alternative reading in their textual notes) thus demonstrating its accuracy once again.

Although I would still like to see confirmation of this thinking from the TNIV Translation Committee, the question posed in my previous entry seems to have been answered.

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Quote for the Day #10: Peaceful Living



There are three sights which warm my heart
and are beautiful in the eyes of the Lord and of men:

concord among brothers,
amity among neighbours,
and a man and wife who are inseparable.

(Ecclesiasticus 25:1, REB)

[ἐν τρισὶν ὡραΐσθην καὶ ἀνέστην ὡραία ἔναντι κυρίου καὶ ἀνθρώπων ὁμόνοια ἀδελφῶν καὶ φιλία τῶν πλησίον καὶ γυνὴ καὶ ἀνὴρ ἑαυτοῖς συμπεριφερόμενοι]

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The Revised English Bible (Top Ten Bible Versions #6)

I would like to suggest that if you consider yourself an aficionado of Bible translations, and do not have a copy of the Revised English Bible (REB), then your set is not yet complete.

When I wrote my review of the New American Standard Bible, I noted that it would be my desert island Bible. Well, the REB would be a strong contender for that position, too, but for different reasons. When the REB was first published in 1989, I was a junior in college majoring in English. Having been exposed to so much good literature by that point, I immediately noticed the quality of style for which the REB would become recognized. In my opinion--and I am not alone in this sentiment--the Revised English Bible has the best overall literary quality of any modern English translation--the best since the King James Version. When I was working on my M.Div in the early nineties, one of the Old Testament professors at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary required the REB as his main text in his OT intro classes. He believed that the REB best reflected the Hebrew text in modern English, especially regarding the poetic sections.

There are a handful of biblical passages I like to refer to when trying to get a feel for a particular translation. Three are reproduced below as they read in the REB:

Proverbs 1:8-19
Matthew 6:1-8
Romans 7:14-25

Attend, my son, to your father's instruction
and do not reject your mother's teaching;
they become like a garland on your heard,
a chain of honour for your neck.

My son, if sinners entice you, do not yield.
They may say: 'Join us and lie in wait for someone's blood;
let us waylay some innocent person who has done us no harm.
We shall swallow them like Sheol though they are alive;
though in health, they will be like those who go down to the abyss.
We shall take rich treasure of every sort
and fill our houses with plunder.
Throw in your lot with us and share the common purse.'
My son, do not go along with them,
stay clear of their ways;
they hasten hotfoot into crime,
pressing on to shed blood.
(A net is spread in vain
if any bird that flies can see it.)
It is for their their own blood they lie in wait;
they waylay no one but themselves.
Such is the fate of all who strive after ill-gotten gain:
it robs of their lives all who possess it.

'Be careful not to parade your religion before others; if you do, no reward awaits you with your Father in heaven.

'So, when you give alms, do not announce it with a flourish of trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets to win the praise of others. Truly I tell you: they have their reward already. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing; your good deed must be in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

'Again, when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; they love to say their prayers standing up in synagogues and at street corners for everyone to see them. Truly I tell you: they have their reward already. But when you pray, go into a room by yourself, shut the door, and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

'In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard. Do not imitate them, for your Father knows your needs before you ask him.

We know that the law is spiritual; but I am not: I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not even acknowledge my own actions as mine, for what I do is not what I want to do, but what I detest. But if what I do is against my will, then clearly I agree with the law and hold it to be admirable. This means that it is no longer I who perform the action, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me--my unspiritual self, I mean--for though the will to do good is there, the ability to effect it is not. The good which I want to do, I fail to do; but what I do is the wrong which is against my will; and if what I do is against my will, clearly it is no longer I who am in the agent, but sin that has dwelling in me.

I discover the principle, then: that when I want to do right, only wrong is within my reach. IN my inmost self I delight in the law of God, but I perceive in my outward actions a different law, fighting against the law that my mind approves, and making me a prisoner under the law of sin which controls my conduct. Wretched creature that I am, who is there to rescue me from this state of death? Who but God? Thanks be to him through Jesus Christ our Lord! To sum up then: left to myself I serve God's law with my mind, but with my unspiritual nature I serve the law of sin.



As essentially a British translation, the REB has never had much of a following in the United States. In fact, the only time I've ever heard it read in public was at an aunt's funeral in 1989 when her associate pastor specifically mentioned that she was reading the 23rd Psalm in the newly released (at that time) REB:

1 The LORD is my shepherd; I lack for nothing.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
    he leads me to water where I may rest;
3 he revives my spirit;
    for his name's sake he guides me in right paths.
4 Even were I to walk through a valley of deepest darkness
    I should fear no harm, for you are with me;
    your shepherd's staff and crook afford me comfort.

5 You spread a table for me in the presence of my enemies;
    you have richly anointed my head with oil,
    and my cup brims over.
6 Goodness and love unfailing will follow me
    all the days of my life,
    and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD
    throughout the years to come.

The Revised English Bible is an update to the New English Bible, originally completed in 1970. The decision to form a joint committee to revise the NEB was made as early as 1973 with the initial goal of publication in 1980. However, the modest goals of the committee grew more extensive overtime. The full revision resulting in what would be the REB was not completed until 1987 and did not see publication for another two years.

I've seemed to notice a trend in Bible versions that as they are revised, they become more conservative. Inclusive language issues aside, the TNIV is more literal in places than the NIV. The second edition of the NLT is much more traditional than the first edition. Both aspects are true for the REB over its predecessor, the New English Bible (NEB). If anything, the REB, while perhaps never gaining as much attention and prestige as the version it replaced, is a much more mature translation than the NEB.

According to the book New Light & Truth: The Making of the Revised English Bible by Roger Coleman, the revision committee had two main goals for updating the NEB: (1) update the formal "thee" and "thou" language (used only for addressing deity in the NEB) to non-formal equivalents and (2) address criticisms and suggestions made for the NEB.

Another significant change had to do with the REB's use of inclusive gender for humans when warranted by the context. The REB was one of the early Bible versions to employ this along with the New Jerusalem Bible (1985) and the New Revised Standard Version (1989). From the Preface:

The use of male-oriented language, in passages of traditional versions of the Bible which evidently apply to both genders, has become a sensitive issue in recent years; the revisers have preferred more inclusive gender reference where that has been possible without compromising scholarly integrity or English style.


The last issue, English style, often becomes the most difficult aspect of gender neutrality. This led to a compromise in the REB. Masculine universals are removed such as "man" and "mankind." Whereas Gen 1:26 in the NEB read "Let us make man in our image...," the REB renders it "Let us make human beings in our image." However, 3rd person masculines are still retained in the REB in verses like Luke 9:23 and Rev 3:20. Adelphoi is consistently translated as "friends" (less preferable to simply "brothers and sisters" in my opinion).

Interesting point of trivia: according to Coleman's book, evidently there were a number of punctuation errors in the original NEB (I've never used the NEB enough to point to a specific one). These errors were caused from a lack of communication between the translators and the publishers. The translators felt that issues of punctuation could be left to the publishers. However, the publishers held the task of Bible translation in such esteem that they felt it inappropriate to change anything the translators gave them, not realizing the assumptions made by the committee.

The NEB had been the first major Bible version to employ dynamic equivalency as a translation method. While the REB still retains this approach, less traditional renderings in the NEB were made more traditional in the REB. Consider Genesis 1:1-2:

Genesis 1:1-2
New English Bible
Revised English Bible
In the beginning of creation, when God made heaven and earth, the earth was without form and void, with darkness over the face of the abyss, and a mighty wind that swept over the surface of the waters. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was a vast waste, darkness covered the deep, and the spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water.


The NEB entry on the Wikipedia notes a number of other controversial renderings in the NEB besides Gen 1:2 included above. Below is a comparison of these verses with the the text from the REB:

 
New English Bible
Revised English Bible
Psalm 22:16
(note rendering for the more familiar "have pierced my hands and feet" )

The huntsmen are all about me;
a band of ruffians rings me round,
and they have hacked off my hands and my feet.

Hounds are all about me;
a band of ruffians rings me round,
and they have bound me hand and foot.
Isaiah 9:6
(NEB rendering "is both interpretational and non-traditional" )

For a boy has been born for us, a son given to us
to bear the symbol of dominion on his shoulder;
and he shall be called
in purpose wonderful, in battle God-like,
Father for all time, Prince of peace

For a child has been born to us, a son is given to us;
he will bear the symbol of dominion on his shoulder,
and his title will be:
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty Hero, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Nahum 1:12-14
(note verse order in NEB which is said to "render the promises of God interpretively" )
13 Now I will break his yoke from your necks
     and snap the cords that bind you.
14 Image and idol I will hew down in the house of your God.
     This is what the LORD has ordained for you:
     never again shall your offspring be scattered;
     and I will grant your burial, fickle though you have been.
12 Has the punishment been so great?
     Yes , but it has passed away and is gone.
     I have afflicted you, but I will not afflict you again.
12 These are the words of the LORD:
     Judah, though your punishment has been great,
     yet it will pass away and be gone.
     I have afflicted you, but I shall not afflict you again.
13 Now I shall break his yoke from your necks
     and snap the cords that bind you.
14 Nineveh, this is what the LORD has ordained for you:
     No more children will be born to you;
     I shall hew down image and idol
     in the temples of your gods:
     I shall prepare your grave,
     for you are of no account.
Acts 20:7
(traditional "first day of week" is rendered "Saturday night" in both versions)
On the Saturday night, in our assembly for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to leave next day, addressed them, and went on speaking until midnight. On the Saturday night, when we gathered for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to leave the next day, addressed the congregation and went on speaking until midnight.


The NEB's infamous "she broke wind" in Josh 15:18 is rendered "she dismounted" in the REB. However, it should be pointed out that later editions of the NEB had already changed the phrase to a much more vague (and much less fun) "she made a noise" which seems to beg for a redactional insertion of "Let the reader understand."

One can still see the influence C. H. Dodd, who served as Vice-Chairman and Director of the Joint Committee for the NEB, in Rom 3:25 of the REB by referring to Jesus as "the means of expiating sins." The only major translations to use the theological term expiation are the NEB, REB, and RSV. More traditional translations often employ propitiation (KJV, NASB, ESV, HCSB). Many translations in the last few decades have opted to use some form of the the less divisive sacrifice of atonement (NIV, NRSV, TNIV. NLT).

The NEB had been known for its reader-friendly single-column text. Further, verse reference numbers were moved to the margins so as not to create unnecessary mental breaks while reading, although it was often difficult to determine where a verse began and ended. Most editions of the REB use a two-column text and verse numbers are restored to their traditional placement.

As with any translation, the REB is not without it's criticisms. In his 1993 JETS review of the REB, Donald Williams wrote

...the REB is, like its predecessor the NEB, a fluid and interesting rendering and a delight to read from a stylistic point of view. But it is not among the most reliable translations from the standpoint of accuracy. Its revisions create an impression of movement in a conservative direction from the NEB that is not always borne out in detail. Less daring than NEB, less willing to depart from time-hallowed KJV patterns in phraseology, REB loses some of the distinctiveness of the earlier version. You might call it NEB homogenized. The result seems more to blunt the virtues of the earlier volume rather than to ameliorate its vices. It remains worth having on the shelves for comparative purposes but would unfortunately be inappropriate as a primary study Bible.

Elegance versus accuracy should not be a trade-off we accept as inevitable: KJV was both as accurate as its time could have made it and unsurpassable in elegance. But perhaps once in a language is the most we can ask for a miracle like that. For now we must choose between such versions as NASB, accurate but stiff and wooden at times; NIV, fairly accurate but bland; and NEB, elegant and exciting but really too loose.


The criticism regarding accuracy is an interesting one. It may be warranted in a few specific examples, but at least the REB can't really be faulted for ever being too wooden, too bland, or even too loose as the other translations mentioned above. It makes for a stimulating read-through of the scriptures. I personally don't believe it would be inappropriate to use the REB as a primary study Bible, but I imagine not many American readers would adopt it for such. The original NEB had been criticized for too often having what were called "britishisms"--that is, words that reflect peculiar (meaning "belonging exclusively to," not "odd or strange") British usage that many American readers might not understand. While the large majority of these were removed in the REB, an occasional odd phrasing remains such as "he will get nothing but blows and contumely" (Prov 6:33). Contumely, by the way, is an older word meaning "insolent or insulting language or treatment."

The REB is only published by Oxford and Cambridge University Presses. In the UNited States REB Bibles are often more easily found in a bookstore chain like Borders or Barnes & Noble than independent Christian bookstores. Most of the editions are primarily text editions, and available either with or without the Apocryphal/Deutero-canonical books. There is a version of the Oxford Study Bible adapted for the REB, but as far as I know it is only published in hardback editions. This is the only study edition of the REB available to my knowledge. Cambridge Press publishes a rather nice text edition in Morocco leather. I can't really justify purchasing this for myself, but I believe if I ever had purely discretionary funds (ha), that would be the edition to own (I simply use a hardback text edition). I was surprised to find that the REB is not available as an add-on for most Bible study software programs, but it is available for Accordance. If someone knows of other electronic offerrings, please post the information in the comments.

The Revised English Bible is a great selection for reading and study, especially for the person who appreciates literary quality. I personally have never taught directly from it, but I find it very enjoyable for personal reading and comparing with other translations. It would also make an appropriate choice to give to the person who has high literary tastes but generally avoids reading the Bible.

For Further Reading:
- Roger, Coleman. New Light & Truth: The Making of the Revised English Bible. London: Oxford University Press, Cambridge University Press, 1989.
- Bible-Researcher webpage for the Revised English Bible
- Wikipedia Entry for the Revised English Bible
- Ken Anderson's Page on the Revised English Bible
- Better Bibles Blog webpage on the Revised English Bible


Redacted: 7/20/2006

Up Next: The New Jerusalem Bible
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