 newtontalk V1 #118 r "d v v     r\ TEXTR*ch            O    ``                       jK  Subject:     newtontalk V1 #118Date:        10/9/99 11:20 PMReceived:    10/11/99 10:14 AMFrom:        NewtonTalk, newtontalk@planetnewton.comTo:          NewtonTalk, newtontalk@planetnewton.comnewtontalk                     Sun, 10 Oct 1999          Volume 1 : Number 118In this issue:        Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?        RE: NTLK Pocket Quicken & SimpleMail Questions        Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with Quicken        Re: NTLK IrDA        Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK IrDA        Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?        Re: Newton 130, available space?        Re: NTLK Newtscape & Yahoo        re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?        Sub: database query        Re: NTLK What's On Your Newton?        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?        Re: NTLK Newtscape & Yahoo        Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK Mororola Montana Modem        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders        FS: MP120 + stuff        Re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?        RE: NTLK What's On Your Newton?        FS: MP2100        Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with Quicken        Re: NTLK MP2000 for sale. Bid now        Re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?        Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with Quicken         NTLK Re: How long after manufacture        MP130 + 3M Modem?        RE: newtontalk V1 #117        RE: newtontalk V1 #117----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:43:12 EDTFrom: DWT001@aol.comTo: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?Message-ID: <0.d22655ff.253021e0@aol.com>What is Newton Press?DaveIn a message dated 10/8/99 6:02:43 PM, viper@eskimo.com writes:<< Anyone know where I can get a copy of Newton Press??ThanksRaymond >>------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:05:52 -0500From: "Dustin J. Schnabel" <dusty_s@bigfoot.com>To: <gcosta@p085.aone.net.au>,	<newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: RE: NTLK Pocket Quicken & SimpleMail QuestionsMessage-ID: <000201bf1213$f6089760$22dd46cf@schnabel1>I have a OMP running PQ 1.0, and it syncs w/ Quicken SE 6.0Hopefully this will help ya...Dusty> -----Original Message-----> From: Glenn Costa [mailto:gcosta@p085.aone.net.au]> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 5:23 PM> To: NewtonTalk> Subject: NTLK Pocket Quicken & SimpleMail Questions> > > Hello all,> > POCKET QUICKEN> Is anyone using the latest (or last version) Pocket Quicken with NOS> 2.1?> > I've tried but get an error (-48XXX) and it crashes on startup.> > In my bleeding edge days I purchase PQ Version 1.0 (& PQ connect) for my> OMP. It runs OK on the MP 2100, albeit with a few display> idiosyncrasies.> > I haven't even thought about synchronizing it with Quicken 98.> > > SIMPLE MAIL> SimpleMail does not allow me to check the Sign Letter box to append an> email signature.> > I get the error message  "sorry you don't have a signature."> > I've checked and tried different signatures in the owner info. profile> as the documentation says but without success.> > My SMTP Hosts are specified in the Owner Info Worksites. No SMTP Host is> specified for Owner Info Owner.> > Strange thing is the SimpleMail Diagnostic 3.0 say NIL for the SMTP> Host. But I've successfully been sending email so maybe Diagnostic only> looks in the Owner Info Owner.> > Any comments?> > Aside from my minor email signature problem I have to say SimpleMail is> a classy piece of software. I'm impressed.> > Compact, robust, fast and well documented.> > Kudos to Simon Bell.> > Thanks,> > GC> > > ******************************************> This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:> > EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.> > The Clinton Administration, the George Bush> 2000 Campaign, and almost every other major> U.S. politician has said something nasty> about us at some time. Find out why at:> http://www.evote.com> > ******************************************> > Need Subscribe/Unsubscribe info?> Visit http://www.planetnewton.com> ------------------------------Date: 9 Oct 1999 09:39:23 +0200From: "jon glass" <jonglass@usa.net>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with QuickenMessage-ID: <B424BFAE-333DC3@212.160.3.100>On Sat, Oct 9, 1999 6:20 AM, NewtonTalk<mailto:newtontalk@planetnewton.com> wrote:> I've also read somewhere how Pocket Money was supposed to be a far   > superior product than Pocket Quicken.  I've tried using Pocket Money and> it just never really clicked for me.  It was on my Newt for months and I> never really got into using it.  But after installing PocketQuicken and> PocketQuicken Connect for my Mac I can't imagine my Newt without it!  In> my opinion Pocket Quicken has a very intuitive interface and its> operation should be very familiar to anyone is already using Quicken.>  And it also syncs> ery nicely with Quicken 98 for Macintosh.I too like PQ's interface, even if it does "waste" screen space. It'spositives are are also very good. However, I use PM for these reasons. 1.Split transactions(multiple catagories per transaction), 2.Multiplecurrencies, 3. "Frequent Flyer" accounts so I can easily track my businessmiles, 4. New transactions and accnt balances without opening PM, andlastly, 5. No corrupted data, with everything being lost. (happened twiceto me with PQ 1.0)In the end, it's what is important to you that counts. These items ended upswaying me to PM, in spite of the seamless integration of PQ with Quicken.I guess that's why there are both products. :-)-Jon GlassKrakow, Poland<jonglass@usa.net><glasshaus5@aol.com>------------------------------Date: 9 Oct 1999 09:41:41 +0200From: "jon glass" <jonglass@usa.net>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK IrDAMessage-ID: <B424BFC8-3343C1@212.160.3.100>On Sat, Oct 9, 1999 6:20 AM, NewtonTalk<mailto:newtontalk@planetnewton.com> wrote:>     Thanks for the reply.  I already have the aladdin expander on my> machine.> When I go to expand it, it just gives me a *.smi file with the same name> as the> *.bin file> You are certainly right. .smi files are self-mounting disk images,something peculiar to the Macintosh. You will probably need somebody with amac to extract the packages and email them to you. I can do it if you need.Just email me the compressed file, and I'll extract the packages, and emailthem to you without the disk image. -Jon GlassKrakow, Poland<jonglass@usa.net><glasshaus5@aol.com>------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 99 21:00:59 +1300From: ben_d <ben_d@clear.net.nz>To: "Newton Talk" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <199910090800.VAA22955@fep4-orange.clear.net.nz>Hello Everyone!I have an eMate, which I use every day, and because of this I have found that the two rubber pen holders on either side of the keyboard get all sorts of dust and dirt in them. Is there any way to remove these to clean them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?Ben DoughneyDirectorAdMac Inc.Visit AdMac Online:http://www.welcome.to/admac.com------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 10:16:23 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK IrDAMessage-ID: <199910090815.KAA21474@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: Pedro Martini <perfectzero@earthlink.net>> When I go to expand it, it just gives me a *.smi file with the same name> as the> *.bin fileYes, and did you ever double click that .smi file, should give you a virtualdisk on your desktop, if that doesn't work get DiskCopy  (from Apple) orShrinkWrap (from Aladdin)Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 10:28:46 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?Message-ID: <199910090828.KAA21687@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: RMV <viper@eskimo.com> > I was able to download Newton Backup Utilities 1.0, but only an updater> for Newton Connection Utilities.> What is the difference between the two?  Do I need only one or both?> If I need NCU, how do I get an original version to upgrade?> Anyone know where I can get a copy of Newton Press??NCU offers you more functionality than NBU.You can get NewtonPress at http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~victor/newton/(you'll find the Newton Connection Kit there as well, connection app for 1.3Newtons)The links I have to NCU don't seem to work anymore, anybody ?Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:34:12 +0200From: "J. van de Griek" <joost_van_de_griek@rad.nl>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: Newton 130, available space?Message-ID: <000701bf1231$10dd4fa0$4d178418@a2000.nl>Neros wrote:[quote]Couple of questions...1) I know the 130 has 8 megs of whatnot.  What I want to know is, How muchspace do I have available to put programs and whatnot in? And, 2)  How much"system resources" do I have to work with?[/quote]From <http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n19336> :8MB of ROM; 2.5MB RAM (1,199K of system RAM; 1,361K of nonvolatile user RAM)Gtx,Joost.------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:46:24 -0400From: Steve Weyer <sweyer@bellatlantic.net>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK Newtscape & YahooMessage-ID: <l03130302b424cb7be2e2@[151.197.122.9]>>Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:03:29 +0800>From: "Kenneth Wong" <ghoonk@mailworld.net>>>One thing I haven't been able to figure out is why I can't seem to get My>Yahoo! on Newtscape. The problem seems to be about cookies which Newtscape>handles fine. Is there any way to get My Yahoo! to display properly on my>Newton?>hi Kenneth,here are a couple of relevant items from the Newt's Cape problems/issues page<LI>2.x: certain sites (my.yahoo.com) have a fixed list of browsers knownto support cookies, frames, tables;if you'd like to trick sites into thinkingNewt's Cape is a more capable browser,you can try adding an Agent Prefix (under i:General:Other Options):Mozilla/2.0 [en]-- this gets added to Newt's Cape's normal "User-Agent" header whichidentifies the browser to the server.Even so I have not been able to figure outhow to make some parts of my.yahoo.com work, e.g., mail.yahoo.com.<LI>For pages with complex (nested) tables,if forms do not appear/work correctly, you may want to turn on "Ignore Tables"(value: any non-empty string) under i:General:Other OptionsSteveweyer@kagi.comNewtDevEnv, Newt's Cape, Sloup, Crypto,...http://members.bellatlantic.net/~sweyer/newton/index.htmhttp://www.kagi.com/weyer------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:46:24 -0400From: Steve Weyer <sweyer@bellatlantic.net>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?Message-ID: <l03130303b424cc2e0d06@[151.197.122.9]>>Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:06:44 -0400>From: Nick DiSanto <skywalk55@geocities.com>>>I recently posted a request for help and thank everyone for their>response. I am however confused by some of the replies I received. I was>curious if I could transfer a package such as the "newton internet>enabler" from my imac to my mp2100 via IrDA. Keep in mind that I>currently don't have a serial adapter and therefore no way of loading>software onto my newton for doing so. I ordered an interconnect today so>this isn't imperative but I am still curious if this is possible.w/o a serial adapter it's tough to get bootstrapped.do you have a friend with a Newton who could you loan you a card thatcontains the packages you want, or could beam them to you?> Oh and what exactly is Sloup?here's the description of Sloup from my main page1.x/2.x; utility for transferring tab-delimited data or textdocuments(Notes,outlines,checklists,Newtworks) between desktop files andNewton "soups" (object-oriented databases); it directs keyboard input tofields, and prints values and errors to desktop "inspector" windowbasically, you communicate with Sloup from a desktop terminal emulatorprogram and send it commands and text files or tab-delimited data. this isusually via serial, but also works via infrared somewhat, and even TCP/IP(if set up as a helper app for Newt's Cape)Steveweyer@kagi.comNewtDevEnv, Newt's Cape, Sloup, Crypto,...http://members.bellatlantic.net/~sweyer/newton/index.htmhttp://www.kagi.com/weyer------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:44:16 +0530From: "aravind venkataraman" <aravindv@vsnl.com>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Sub: database queryMessage-ID: <000901bf124a$abd66e60$dd16fea9@calvin>i have been volunteered ;-) as  the data-in-charge for a project whichinvolves storing records of over 1000-1500 patients each patient havingaboutt 50 to 60 fields. this project is out of town and i am hoping toimpress the other members with my newton mp2000u.which database do u think i should use.i have to transfer the data to a peecee wiyh win98/office98/oracle when iget back.experienced users advice neededTIAKeep SmilingDr. Aravind Vemail: aravindv@vsnl.com------------------------------Date: Sa, 9 Okt. 1999 10:31:00 +0200From: Kurt Amacker <amuk@softhome.net>To: NewtonTalk <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK What's On Your Newton?Message-ID: <199910091140.NAA27174@bw151zhb.bluewin.ch>No one ever mentioned the "StickyNewts" from conceptkitchenhttp://www.conceptkitchen.comwhich is definitively one of the coolest tools ever...!!!!!amuk@softhome.netspeech tubes to You... http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/8217------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:51:37 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <199910091151.NAA26183@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: ben_d <ben_d@clear.net.nz>> I have an eMate, which I use every day, and because of this I have found> that the two rubber pen holders on either side of the keyboard get all> sorts of dust and dirt in them. Is there any way to remove these to clean> them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?With a Q-Tip ?Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:53:21 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Newton Connection Utilities?/Newton Press?Message-ID: <199910091152.NAA26229@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: DWT001@aol.com> What is Newton Press?> DaveNewton Press is an app for making Newton books.Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:06:00 -0700From: Susan Freeman <swfreeman@att.net>To: "newtontalk@planetnewton.com" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Cc: "newtontalk@planetnewton.com" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK Newtscape & YahooMessage-ID: <19991009120347.UCBH20426@[12.64.73.149]>Kenneth, I visited manually with cookies on and answered the sigon infoand have been able to automagically download my Yahoo page ever since --but I do remember needing to surf there on Newtscape and check theremember box (which sets the cookie and set Newtscape cookies to Keep.Now has anyone managed the Calendar as an unattended download? On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:03:29 +0800, Kenneth Wong wrote:>>One thing I haven't been able to figure out is why I can't seem to get My>Yahoo! on Newtscape. The problem seems to be about cookies which Newtscape>handles fine. Is there any way to get My Yahoo! to display properly on my>Newton?>>>Kenneth Wong>Vice President>The Active Idea Company Private Limited>>******************************************>This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:>>EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.>>The Clinton Administration, the George Bush>2000 Campaign, and almost every other major>U.S. politician has said something nasty>about us at some time. 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Find out why at:> http://www.evote.com>> ******************************************>> Need Subscribe/Unsubscribe info?> Visit http://www.planetnewton.com------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 08:38:07 -0400From: "Dan Deering" <dhd@keene.edu>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <199910091238.IAA02225@monadnock.keene.edu>Q-Tip and rubbing alcohol does wonders!---------->From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK Dirty Penholders>Date: Sat, Oct 9, 1999, 7:51 AM>>>From: ben_d <ben_d@clear.net.nz>>>> I have an eMate, which I use every day, and because of this I have found>> that the two rubber pen holders on either side of the keyboard get all>> sorts of dust and dirt in them. Is there any way to remove these to clean>> them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?>> With a Q-Tip ?>>> Robert Benschop>> ******************************************> This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:>> EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.>> The Clinton Administration, the George Bush> 2000 Campaign, and almost every other major> U.S. politician has said something nasty> about us at some time. Find out why at:> http://www.evote.com>> ******************************************>> Need Subscribe/Unsubscribe info?> Visit http://www.planetnewton.com> ------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:47:50 EDTFrom: DWT001@aol.comTo: newtontalk@planetnewton.com, ben_d@clear.net.nzSubject: Re: NTLK Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <0.d8491f5.25309376@aol.com>Hi..I also have an eMate, but am trying to learn to use it more effectively.I thought it could work with a modem, and I see folks discussing lots of various software for the Newton OS. But as I look at the eMate, and try to download stuff into it, I see that it doesn't have much room for new programs..i.e. the native or built in software pretty much uses up the memory.Is the emate primarily just a durable portable word processor, to be used as an adjunct to the desktop, or am I overlooking some way to stuff more software into it?Tks.DaveHello Everyone!I have an eMate, which I use every day, and because of this I have found that the two rubber pen holders on either side of the keyboard get all sorts of dust and dirt in them. Is there any way to remove these to clean them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?Ben DoughneyDirectorAdMac Inc.Visit AdMac Online:http://www.welcome.to/admac.com------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:02:32 EDTFrom: DWT001@aol.comTo: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Mororola Montana ModemMessage-ID: <0.9c81576f.253096e8@aol.com>In a message dated 10/7/99 10:48:20 PM, djw6@po.cwru.edu writes:<< Thanks to everyone who replied to my question about the Motorola Montanamodem. Have any of you tried to use this modem or any other with theStarTac 7760 cell phone? I had been using a megahertz modem with myStarTac 8600 and my eMate, but it will not work with my 7760.  >>Would you explain in more detail just how you rig your eMate to work with the cell phone? Have you installed some software other than that which came on the Connectivity CD? Did you have to delete any of the native software in the eMate..such as class room exchange?TksDave------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:15:39 +0200From: Rolf Meijer <karu@xs4all.nl>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <37FF3FFB.C63A9F26@xs4all.nl>DWT001@aol.com wrote:> > Hi..> I also have an eMate, but am trying to learn to use it more effectively.> I thought it could work with a modem, and I see folks discussing lots of> various software for the Newton OS. But as I look at the eMate, and try to> download stuff into it, I see that it doesn't have much room for new> programs..i.e. the native or built in software pretty much uses up the memory.> Is the emate primarily just a durable portable word processor, to be used as> an adjunct to the desktop, or am I overlooking some way to stuff more> software into it?> Tks.> Dave> >Hi, I also have an eMate adn try to use as much software as is possible.You're quit right, it isn't much.But you can have add some memory. Standard you have 3MB of memory and Ibelieve the system uses about 1 MB of it. With the extra memory you have9 MB to use! And as an extra feature your eMate becomes 32 bit insteadof 16, so it's also 2 times faster.I don't know if this answers your question as it'll cost you about$100,- to get the memory upgrade. Check out newtonoz for details. (SorryI don't know their webpage).Groet'n, RegardsRolf------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:37:08 -0500From: Greg Teiber <wolfe19@megsinet.net>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Dirty PenholdersMessage-ID: <199910091337080410.1070CC45@mail.megsinet.net>Try a little water/alcahol on a qtip :)  and to get the really big bits of= dust, Try blowing through a straw..... Just don't inhale any of the dust= (Yuch)*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********On 10/9/99, at 9:00 PM, ben_d wrote: >Hello Everyone!>>I have an eMate, which I use every day, and because of this I have found >that the two rubber pen holders on either side of the keyboard get all >sorts of dust and dirt in them. Is there any way to remove these to clean >them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?>>>>Ben Doughney>>Director>AdMac Inc.>>Visit AdMac Online:>http://www.welcome.to/admac.com>>******************************************>This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:>>EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.>>The Clinton Administration, the George Bush>2000 Campaign, and almost every other major>U.S. politician has said something nasty>about us at some time. 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Is there any way to remove these to clean>>> them or has anyone come up with a niffty way to clean them?>>>> With a Q-Tip ?>>>>>> Robert BenschopAck!!! Please DO NOT use rubbing alcohol on your eMate's pen holders! Alcohol causes rubber and synthetic rubber to harden and crack!You should use a cotton swab (I won't say the Q word because they aren't paying me. ;-D ) and a solution of light dish detergent and warm water.If you want to be really clean, yank them out of the socket and stick them in the dishwasher (taking care to put them in a secure place). You should take them out during the drying cycle although it shouldn't hurt if you forget. (that's how I clean extremely dirty styli, BTW)To clean the case around the pen holders, I recommend a light dish detergent or KlearScreen/BrainWash cleaners.-Ozof NewtonOz Itemsnewtonoz@ix.netcom.com------------------------------Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:59:00 -0400From: THX 1138 <bct1@thestate.infi.net>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: FS: MP120 + stuffMessage-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991009155900.0079d850@mailhost.thestate.infi.net>Reduced!!!Please buy my newton, it's doing no one any good sitting under my bed...Last chance before I put it on e-bay or give it to my dog.-MP 120, 2.0/1mb, w/ original stylus, screen always protected, nothing missing, no major scratches, exterior shows some use, nothing obvious, just telling you ahead of time to be honest...-charging cradle w/original desktop stylus and a/c adapter -2 additional internal styli (new, never used) -toiletries style carrying case-Will include either a PC or Mac Cable and copy of NCU 1.0b6 on floppies (free updater on Apple ftp site)-9 unused WriteRights + 1 on screen less than a month old -set of NiMH (not NiCad!) AA batteries, charge fine in Newton, hold charge great, & 4 month old backup battery -most original documentarion (I may have lost some of the ads...)-all the help you need to get thru the first monthAsking $145 (or interesting trade) for the lot. will not part out (yet).you pay via Money Order I'll pick up the tab for shippng via UPS, pay by check, you'll have to pay it.thanks.------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:08:35 -0400From: markr13 <markr13@voicenet.com>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?>Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:06:44 -0400>From: Nick DiSanto <skywalk55@geocities.com>>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?>Message-ID: <37FE1693.CE63ADA1@geocities.com>>>I recently posted a request for help and thank everyone for their>response. I am however confused by some of the replies I received. I was>curious if I could transfer a package such as the "newton internet>enabler" from my imac to my mp2100 via IrDA. Keep in mind that I>currently don't have a serial adapter and therefore no way of loading>software onto my newton for doing so. I ordered an interconnect today so>this isn't imperative but I am still curious if this is possible. Oh and>what exactly is Sloup?>>-NickNick-As has been discussed here in the past, there is no simple way to use the IR ports on the Newton MP's to communicate with iMacs.  You need to use a USB-->Serial converter and connect normally with the dongle connection on the Newton.  Any of the available converters will work. If you want a lot of options, you can use an iDock which has several serial, parallel and USB ports all on one device hub.Mark Rossmarkr13@voicenet.com ------------------------------Need a Screen Protector to keep your Newton in tip top shape?Go to <http://www.voicenet.com/~markr13> for NuShield screen protectors.Don't leave your Newt Naked!------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:57:04 -0400From: "Michael Neville" <nevillem@ithaca.net>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: RE: NTLK What's On Your Newton?Message-ID: <FEEPLECMDONACJOKBOEMMEKFCDAA.nevillem@ithaca.net>There is no description on the web site of these "Sticky Newts." Please giveus a little more info. I found one link to a note about a possible bug, butno info. thanks.-Michael-----Original Message-----From: Kurt Amacker [mailto:amuk@softhome.net]Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 3:31 AMTo: NewtonTalkSubject: Re: NTLK What's On Your Newton?No one ever mentioned the "StickyNewts" from conceptkitchenhttp://www.conceptkitchen.comwhich is definitively one of the coolest tools ever...!!!!!amuk@softhome.netspeech tubes to You...http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/8217******************************************This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.The Clinton Administration, the George Bush2000 Campaign, and almost every other majorU.S. politician has said something nastyabout us at some time. 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So, here are theparticulars:MP2100 ( factory upgraded 2000 )KeyboardPretec 8mb card28.8 Megahertz XJack modem2- Newton 9w Power AdaptersDongleHandStand Carry CaseApple Newton Leather CaseKeyboard CaseReal cool nylon Newton bag w/ logoCross Digital PenNewton Fax Modem ( original box and docs )CablesAll original softwareUpgrade CD6 Brain Wash packsRegistered Software:DateManInkSpotMerlinNewtScapePocketMoneyStickyNewtWordSleuthX-PortMany other freeware apps on floppy diskVery well cared for. No scratches on screen.$650.00 ( includes shipping anywhere in U.S. ) check or Money OrderDave Golden------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:33:26 -0500From: "Janis Shetley" <jshetley@stlnet.com>To: <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with QuickenMessage-ID: <005301bf12b7$11d5c280$250360d1@oemcomputer>Mark -Where did you find PocketQuicken - I thought it was discontinued.  Is itavailable for purchase someplace?  TIA - janis>But after installing PocketQuicken and> PocketQuicken Connect for my Mac I can't imagine my Newt without it!  In> my opinion Pocket Quicken has a very intuitive interface and its> operation should be very familiar to anyone is already using Quicken.>  And it also syncs> ery nicely with Quicken 98 for Macintosh.>> Mark McAnally------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:08:26 EDTFrom: RobertRuff@aol.comTo: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK MP2000 for sale. Bid nowMessage-ID: <9299e5e3.2531410a@aol.com> ------------------------------Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:38:33 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK Sloup? IrDA?Message-ID: <199910100138.DAA10368@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: markr13 <markr13@voicenet.com>> As has been discussed here in the past, there is no simple way to use the> IR ports on the Newton MP's to communicate with iMacs.  You need to use a> USB-->Serial converter and connect normally with the dongle connection on> the NewtonOr, much faster though more expensive, through an Ethernet card.Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:46:14 +0200From: "Robert Benschop" <robertbenschop@bigfoot.com>To: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject: Re: NTLK (PocketMoney v PocketQuicken) with QuickenMessage-ID: <199910100145.DAA10432@degas.telebyte.nl>>From: "Janis Shetley" <jshetley@stlnet.com>> Where did you find PocketQuicken - I thought it was discontinued.  Is it> available for purchase someplace?  TIA - janisyou'll find it on http://newtoncage.webjump.com/Robert Benschop------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:13:34 EDTFrom: CElhardt@aol.comTo: newtontalk@planetnewton.comSubject:  NTLK Re: How long after manufactureMessage-ID: <0.f15b55a8.2531504e@aol.com>>From:  chasbrod@concentric.net (Charles Broderick)>Reply-to:  newtontalk@planetnewton.com>To:    newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Actually, if you had owned a PowerBook 5300 (the "Flaming PowerBook") you'd>know the law requires a company to support the hardware for 7 years after>mfg. Otherwise you would never be able to get anything repaired; the mfg's>response to all inquiries would be "Buy a new product."I don't think so, and I do own a 5300 powerbook, with which I'm reviewing the mail even now.  The flaming part was the lithium battery, since replaced with NiHydride. There were two recalls for reworks (mine were already upgraded when I bought the machine new) and a service order for hinge tightening that, as far as I know, has no time limit.  chris elhardt In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice, however, there is no similarity - Dave Butenhof.------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:32:36 -0500From: Matt Garrison <iluvmacs@macline.com>To: NewtonTalk <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: MP130 + 3M Modem?Message-ID: <l03130300b425b910450a@[192.168.0.1]>Posting for a friend:>I have a MessagePad 130 that I just purchased.  PC Cards work fine.>Except for my 3M modem.  It's a 14.4 modem.  When I insert the modem, the>Newton says "There is a problem with this card. (Newton cannot recognize>this type of card.)"  I know this modem worked, because I received it from>my brother.  He had it with his MessagePad 120.  Although he never used>it, he did try it once when he first got it to make sure that he paid for>a working item.  Also, the previous owner of the modem (and the MP 120)>regularly used the modem.  I tried the modem in a friend's MP 130, and it>gave the same error.  Do I need a special package for this modem or what?>How can I get it to be recognized.>>Please CC all responses to macman@macline.com.>TIA,>>Kynan Shook>macman@macline.com>kshook@chorus.net>http://smtp.macline.com/~kynan_shook/>>Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line,>off the bridge, past the firewall... nothing but 'net.>Matt Garrisoniluvmacs@macline.comProud owner of 2 Apple Power Macintoshes and 2 Apple Newtons!"The day that Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the same daythey start making vacuum cleaners."------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:34 -0700 (PDT)From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb@earthlink.net>To: "<newtontalk@planetnewton.com" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: RE: newtontalk V1 #117Message-ID: <199910100334.UAA29018@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>RE:Subject: Re: NTLK ntlk Still killing digest versions ;-(ben, I don't think I've ever seen on this list your setup.Maybe the settings are incorrect.Either post here your setup and/or email me your setup and let's see =what's wrong.Woo.%-) ------------------------------Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:41 -0700 (PDT)From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb@earthlink.net>To: "<newtontalk@planetnewton.com" <newtontalk@planetnewton.com>Subject: RE: newtontalk V1 #117Message-ID: <199910100341.UAA06790@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>RE:Subject: Re: NTLK ntlk Still killing digest versions ;-(ben, I don't think I've ever seen on this list your setup.Maybe the settings are incorrect.Either post here your setup and/or email me your setup and let's see =what's wrong.Woo.%-) ------------------------------End of newtontalk V1 #118*******************************************************************This month's NewtonTalk brought to you by:EVOTE.COM, the ultimate Political Junkie site on the 'Net.The Clinton Administration, the George Bush2000 Campaign, and almost every other majorU.S. politician has said something nastyabout us at some time. 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